FLIG 11:06 Thu Nov 19
The deterrent paradox (when is a deterrent not a deterrent)
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1) If you have a nuclear deterrent and the prime minister (or whoever) presses the button to launch the nuclear missiles first, then you are the aggressor ie its not being used as a deterrent.
2) If you have a nuclear deterrent (as above)............presses the button to launch the nuclear missiles second, in response to an attack, then the nuclear capability has hardly been a deterrent!
Discuss!
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Sarge
11:08 Thu Nov 19
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Rock paper scissors best of 3.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:11 Thu Nov 19
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It's psychological FLIG.
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Darlo Debs
11:15 Thu Nov 19
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I was pondering this just the other day.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:17 Thu Nov 19
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Well ponder no more Debs.
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The Dursley Massive
11:19 Thu Nov 19
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3) nobody fires a missile at you because they think you'll fire a nuke in return. Deterrent.
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kylay
11:19 Thu Nov 19
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I was thinking more along the lines of br'er rabbit and the briar patch.
If there aren't any weapons launched at all then it's arguablyI a deterrent. You have set up a false dichotomy like staying up or sacking allardyce
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Darlo Debs
11:20 Thu Nov 19
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Well I stopped after a bit as my daughter wanted a deep and meaningful chat about religion,
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Schoffie
11:25 Thu Nov 19
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Not as simple as that nowadays. 50s, 60s big bombs and crude missiles. Tactical nukes would be used 1st would imagine, a battlefield retreat or decimate a small town where Isis are huddling up..
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FLIG
11:27 Thu Nov 19
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kylay 11:19 Thu Nov 19
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I was thinking more along the lines of br'er rabbit and the briar patch.
If there aren't any weapons launched at all then it's arguablyI a deterrent. You have set up a false dichotomy like staying up or sacking allardyce
Sorry kylay but you are wrong. Its not a dichotomy (look the meaning up)
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,
11:34 Thu Nov 19
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It ceases to be a deterrent when one is fired.
The other thing is that it is only a deterrent to other rationally lead nation states. I am sure that entities like ISIS have never been considered [ until very recent times ] when Generals and politicians have played doomsday scenario war games.
We are already worried about ISIS getting hold of chemical weapons God forbid it gets hold of a nuke. And where do you nuke in retaliation?
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charleyfarley
11:36 Thu Nov 19
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when is a deterrent not a deterrent?
ans:- when it's not a deterrent
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Nurse Ratched
11:40 Thu Nov 19
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No one want to see crude missiles.
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Mr Polite
11:45 Thu Nov 19
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You can see my missile if you like
Giggerty
Sorry for being crude
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Hammer and Pickle
11:48 Thu Nov 19
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Incoming misguided missiles.
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Nurse Ratched
11:53 Thu Nov 19
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Hang on, let me fetch my pince-nez...
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Dapablo
11:56 Thu Nov 19
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There have had no intercontinental missiles fired at us therefore we have a deterent, that or no-ones wanted to fire one.
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Nurse Ratched
11:58 Thu Nov 19
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Maybe they all hit Jaywick and we just didn't notice.
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Hammer and Pickle
12:10 Fri Nov 20
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Clacton wouldn't even notice.
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The Cult Of Bob
4:42 Fri Nov 20
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The use of the power to hurt as bargaining power is the foundation of deterrence theory.
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ManorParkHammer
8:55 Fri Nov 20
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Using the word paradox in a thread title nearly deterred me from opening this thread and calling you a cunt.
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